Specific 
            Comments 
              
            
          Again 
            we look at the specific points we have observed in the ‘Content' part 
            above 
               
              
          P.97 
            Opening negative remarks. 
            As I noted above, I believe it 
            is important to note this starting place. Consider this, four lines 
            in: “On certain very special occasions, it is 
            asserted, the divine will was made known by direct contact with randomly 
            selected human beings, who were supposedly vouchsafed unalterable 
            laws that could then be passed on to those less favoured.” 
              
            
          Now 
            before I continue here, may I recommend you read P.31 of our Apologetics 
            pages, entitled “The Revelation of God.” (CLICK 
            HERE).    Right, let's continue and note the 
            various phrases in the above sentence. 
              
            
          “very 
            special occasions” – actually this is quite inaccurate. Certainly 
            there were one or two very notable occasions when the divine encounter 
            meant a sharing of the divine will, but by and large these encounters 
            were on remarkably ordinary occasions, and that is what makes them 
            notable. God often spoke to individuals in the very ordinariness of 
            their lives, not at the peak of some great religious experience! 
               
            
          “it 
            is asserted” – this is the language of doubt. It is emotive 
            and gives you no room to reason for yourself. His negative emotional 
            frame is being imposed upon you the reader. 
           
               
          “randomly 
            selected individuals” – which suggests they are random only 
            in the eyes of the author because he doesn't know why they were chosen 
            and hasn't bothered to either read or think to find out why. There 
            is nothing random about God's choices, as you will see if you read 
            that page recommended above. 
             
              
          “who 
            were supposedly” – more of the language of doubt. As above. 
            
               
            
          “those 
            less favoured” – by which we assume he means those who hadn't 
            been favoured with an encounter with God. How silly is that! So God 
            can only speak as long as He speaks to large numbers at a time! He 
            speaks to individuals on purpose - but I'm not going to do all your 
            thinking for you; you can think that one out! 
            
                 
          We 
            thus start with emotionally biased writing that imposes on you, with 
            sloppy and casual and inaccurate comments. This is not a good way 
            to start a chapter, unless you are just hoping to feed others who 
            have the same biased presuppositions as you have, and who won't be 
            bothered to think about the truth. 
             
              
          P.97,98 
            Objections to the Old Testament: 
            The emotive language continues: “There are some 
            very obvious objections”. Well actually what follows are not 
            obvious; in fact the objections are often frivolous and shallow and 
            made with little thought. Let's take them one by one: 
             
              
          i) 
            Varied disclosure to ‘hugely discrepant prophets': 
            This starts out “several such disclosures have 
            been claimed to occur.” Wipe away all the non-Biblical ones 
            if you will, because I am only speaking about Biblical prophets, and 
            the author is not clear - in fact he is very vague,  but as this 
            is a chapter on the Old Testament, I assume he is speaking about prophets 
            and laws in the Old Testament only here. Several? Try hundreds! If 
            it is purely ‘laws' then it is in fact only one ‘prophet', Moses, 
            yet it is more than just two or three even with him. But he did say 
            ‘prophets' and so if we include the numbers of times that God spoke 
            to Israel in the Old Testament, it is literally hundreds. 
             
              
          ii) 
            one revelation is not enough – needed various backups:  
            Well, actually one of the things that I have noted today, is that 
            when God speaks to people, He does repeat Himself because we are incredibly 
            good at forgetting what He said or even of hearing it wrongly. The 
            fact that He repeats Himself simply adds credibility to it. 
              
            
          iii) 
            other times just one revelation to some obscure person:  
            Well I have to say I don't know who he is referring to here. The only 
            ‘obscure' people might be some of the so-called minor prophets and 
            nothing they said added to the Law, only confirmed it. I think this 
            is just inaccuracy here. 
               
            
          iv) 
            revelations are “hopelessly inconsistent”:  
            Well he wisely doesn't try to give us any examples of the wild accusation. 
            The amazing thing that I have found of over forty years reading it 
            again and again, is that it is incredibly consistent! Unfounded and 
            inaccurate belief! 
              
            
          v) 
            revelation often comes to nobodies: 
            Actually his words were “unlettered and quasi-historical 
            figures”. Unlettered? Does this mean uneducated? Well there 
            are a couple of very obvious (and these ARE obvious if you've read 
            your Bible) answers here. The first is, does it matter that they were 
            uneducated? I'm not sure who he has in mind, but most of the receivers 
            of divine communication, also experienced divine encounter and power 
            to verify their words. Education wasn't an issue. The second point 
            is that if you take Moses, for example, as one of the prime providers 
            of the divine communication, he was almost certainly a most remarkably 
            educated individual, having been raised in the courts of the Pharaoh 
            of his day. 
             
            
          No, 
            these “obvious objections” come as the 
            objections of a person with very sketchy knowledge of the Old Testament, 
            but then he is an atheist, and atheists aren't known for their knowledge 
            of the Bible and yet keep on blundering in when fools fear to tread. 
            
            
              
          There 
            is a little aside between this and the next section, about the three 
            monotheistic faiths. I think the idea is, defeat one and you defeat 
            all three because they all have the same ancestry. That's why the 
            early books seem important to him but it's a shame he hasn't the courage 
            to read all the books of the Old Testament, because he would then 
            realise that this ancestry is supported right the way throughout. 
            
              
              
          P.98-101 
            Foibles of the Ten Commandments: Somewhat 
            rashly, our author embarks on a critique of a set of laws that large 
            parts of the world throughout history have hailed as possibly the 
            best synopsis of basic law for a society that have ever been produced. 
            Let's consider what he says. 
               
            
          a) 
            the commandments themselves (P.98,99): 
          He 
            rightly insists that the first three are all variations of the same 
            one. Yes they are, but they are significant variations: 
           
                 
          1. 
            No other gods beside the “I AM” (revealed to Moses – Ex 3), the eternal, 
            ever-present one 
           
              
              Why? Because there is only one Supreme 
              Being. Is this obvious? No, the Greeks and Romans obviously didn't 
              think so! 
           
          2. 
            Don't make representations of God in any form associated with the 
            earth 
           
              
              Why? Because an idol diminishes who 
              He is and makes you think you can ‘manage' Him. 
           
          3. 
            Don't misuse or distort His name 
           
              
              Why? Because any alteration of His 
              name changes who you think He is. 
           
           
                
          His 
            second objection is to the “throat clearing 
            … very serious admonitions” in respect of Ex 20:5 – “I, 
            the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the 
            sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who 
            hate me.” A number of separate but related issues are 
            here, and he will pick this up again further down the page. 
              
            
          First 
            God was originally speaking to the nation He had just delivered from 
            slavery in Egypt and was offering them (and they had not yet accepted 
            it – so they were quite clear about the One with whom they were having 
            dealings) a relationship that was based on His intent to create a 
            people who would stand out in the world as a people blessed with peace, 
            harmony and prosperity (which was observable in the following centuries 
            when they played their part – see shortly). 
            
              
          Second, 
            their part was to stick close to Him and that meant not going the 
            way of the surrounding pagan nations who were worshipping idols and 
            offering their children as sacrifices to their ‘gods'. They couldn't 
            have it both ways – blessing AND idol worship and idol sacrifice – 
            that's what the reference to Him being jealous means. 
           
              
          Third, 
            the injunction that follows about punishment, please note, is a limiting 
            one, ONLY to the third and fourth generations, and it is punishment 
            of those who hated Him and therefore rebelled against Him but still 
            held on to the name of those who were His people. If they did that 
            they would no longer represent Him faithfully to the rest of the world. 
            
            
              
          Fourth, 
            what this “throat clearing” reference does not do is paint the whole 
            picture, for we've quoted verse 5 but verse 6 continues: “but 
            showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep 
            my commandments.” In other words, any punishment is overshadowed 
            by the promise of ongoing available love. Put another way, if you 
            keep my guidance you won't be wasting your time, for my love will 
            be poured out on generation after generation without end. 
               
            
          If 
            you want the even fuller picture, it is worth noting here that, after 
            Israel's failure and Moses breaking the first set of stone tablets 
            with the Ten Commandments on, when He gives him a second replacement 
            set, He describes Himself to Moses in a very reassuring manner which 
            simply expands on what we have just seen: “The 
            LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, 
            abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, 
            and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin.” (Ex 34:6). 
            
            
               
          Do 
            you see the emphasis here, right in the early part of Israel 's 
            history with God? God is COMPASSIONATE, 
            GRACIOUS, SLOW TO ANGER, ABOUNDING IN LOVE AND FAITHFULNESS, MAINTAINING 
            LOVE… FORGIVING WICKEDNESS. These characteristics 
            are uniformly seen throughout the Bible. Yes that verse does continue 
            with the same warning to future generations but the emphasis is as 
            we have made it. Did God take pleasure in punishment? No, listen: 
            “Do I take any pleasure in the death of 
            the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased 
            when they turn from their ways and live?” (Ezek 18:23) 
            
            
              
          Our 
            author then is upset by the fourth commandment to rest up on the seventh 
            day of every week. This was, in fact, a safety injunction to stop 
            abuse by employers and well as countering the tendency of those who 
            work for themselves to work themselves into the ground. Yes, it was 
            linked to a remembrance of the Lord, because that relationship was 
            the key thing that helped Israel 
             remain different and remain 
            in a good place. A reminder by way of a holiday seems a pretty good 
            way of doing that, to me! 
            
               
          His 
            ongoing comment about honouring parents in order to live long in the 
            land is short-sighted. As we are increasingly finding, family life 
            is the foundation of a stable society (have you seen the ongoing articles 
            in the secular press confirming this?) Once family life collapses 
            (as it is rapidly doing in the arrogant and godless West) society 
            collapses. It's simple and it's obvious to anyone except those whose 
            agenda makes it inconvenient. 
            
              
          He 
            concludes with the four “thou shalt not” commands, but waits until 
            later to comment on them, so we will too. 
             
              
          b) 
            the tone in which they are delivered and 
            specific niggles (P.99,100): 
          He 
            has already grumbled about this but he picks it up again now. He puts 
            in the same category that a local king might have used. We've covered 
            this already so let's move on. 
            
              
          His 
            next objection is purely silly and thoughtless. Why come up with such 
            obvious commands as you shall not murder, he asks? Surely, he says, 
            every sensible nation in history would take that as read. Yes, of 
            course we do, but why is it, therefore, that we all have it written 
             into our laws. I'm sure the United 
            States  has it written into a 
            law somewhere; the UK  
            certainly has – in a whole number of statutes! Why write them down? 
            So no one can say, I didn't know. 
            
              
          He 
            also rambles on foolishly about Jesus' parable of the Good Samaritan. 
            What's the point of that, he implies? The answer is that it may appear 
            obvious to this literate world traveller but it wasn't obvious to 
            everyone else. The whole point of that parable was that Jesus was 
            saying be nice to your neighbour (as the Law said) and some picky 
            atheists asked him, so who do you mean who is my neighbour? History 
            at that point said that Jews and Samaritans intensely disliked each 
            other. Jesus says, cut it out, don't have racial boundaries, be nice 
            to everyone! No, it's not so obvious! 
             
              
          Over 
            the page he speaks of the “pitiless teachings 
            of the god of Moses, who never mentions human solidarity and compassion 
            at all”. Where has he been? We've already seen the revelation 
            about compassion, love, faithfulness, forgiveness etc. but hasn't 
            he actually read the laws that follow? If he had, he would have caught 
            exactly the word he uses, the ‘sense of solidarity'. This was a bonded 
            together people, caring for one another, protecting one another and 
            ensuring any wrongs were righted and people compensated. These are 
            silly descriptions. 
            
              
          His 
            final niggle is about the tenth command about not coveting and within 
            this he objects to a woman being included in the list of things not 
            to be coveted. This was simply a cultural thing. Within subsequent 
            Jewish history and certainly Christian history, women were given a 
            far higher place than normally in the world. It's just covering the 
            view of the culture of the day. Permissible ignorance? 
            
              
          His 
            main objection is against prescribing what a person shall not think. 
            The problem here is not understanding what coveting means. It doesn't 
            mean just a casual thought. Use of it elsewhere in Scripture indicates 
            that it means ‘a purposeful desiring which soon is followed by the 
            act of taking'. Similarly ‘envy' that he refers to, doesn't mean just 
            a casual once off wish, but an ongoing desire that is allowed to build 
            and build. I do not covet my neighbours possessions or even their 
            wives (!) because I am content with what I have and love my wife very 
            much. You don't have to covet and you don't have 
            to envy. The prohibitions are quite reasonable and ARE possible to 
            follow. 
            
              
          c) 
            what they do not say (P. 100) : 
            I'm going to assume that we are talking about the Law generally here, 
            and not just the Ten Commandments, because they are the basic minimums 
            for a society and do not cover detailed issues which are covered in 
            the many other laws given through Moses. 
              
            
          It 
            is fairly obvious that the author has never carefully studied the 
            Law of Moses otherwise he would have come across the very things he 
            says are missing. 
              
              
          P.101,102 
            Other laws and failure.  
            The above takes us naturally into some of the specific laws he objects 
            to. 
             
            
          He 
            starts with the law of slavery, and of course, hardly touches the 
            subject and misses the heart of the law. I'm tempted to do a full 
            exposition of the laws about slavery but this page is already quite 
            long. Suffice it to say, the laws of Moses in respect of slavery, 
            like the rest of the laws for society, were to protect against abuses. 
            Slaves weren't for life, they were more like the hired help that was 
            often part of the family. What Moses' law did was regularise what 
            was a world practice but make it humane and caring, but you really 
            need to read through the Law intelligently to see that! If you want 
            more on Slavery, please go to Appendix 3 by CLICKING 
            HERE. 
             
            
          Comments 
            about the “insanely detailed regulations governing 
            oxen,” fail to understand the importance of such animals that 
            were of immense value in assuring the wellbeing of a household in 
            a largely agricultural economy. 
            
              
          Similarly 
            negative comments about an eye of an eye, etc. simply show lack of 
            understanding that this was a protective law that limited vengeance 
            in a primitive society so there would not be a round of increasing 
            violence and death. 
             
              
          We'd 
            better carry on with each carping criticism born out of lack of understanding, 
            for that is what the next one about witches is all about. Remember, 
            this is an embryonic nation that relies on its future by maintaining 
            a relationship with God. Silly, unknowing people snigger about witches 
            (and let's not confuse fairy tale beliefs with reality) but occult 
            powers are real and deceptive and so for Israel 
             in particular the injunction 
            is to stop anyone even starting to become a witch. The death penalty 
            (and I know it's coming up later) was a warning not to do something 
            that was considered a serious risk to the future existence and well-being 
            of the nation. We think we know better, to our loss. 
              
            
          He 
            briefly refers to the laws of sacrifice but doesn't realise that this 
            was God's way of dealing with guilt in this embryonic people. I cover 
            this in the previous appraisal in more detail. Please go there. Similarly 
            I have covered in detail the Sinai executions in the appraisal of 
            The God Delusion  so please see the comments in Chapter 7 
            of that book's appraisal. CLICK 
            HERE 
            
              
          Before 
            we end this section we need to refute the silly statement born out 
            of lack of knowledge: “The Bible may, indeed 
            does, contain a warrant for trafficking in humans, for ethnic cleansing, 
            for slavery, for bride price, and for indiscriminate massacre”. 
            It does not do any of those things. Read it, understand it, see it 
            in context, read our notes on other parts of this site, and realise 
            the folly of this statement.CLICK 
            HERE
             
              
          P.102,103 
            Archaeology's absences: 
            The argument of denial by absence is often used, but is not a good 
            one. To say that there are no archaeological signs of Moses simply 
            means, we haven't identified anything we've found so far with Moses, 
            or simply we haven't found anything so far. The history of Biblical 
            criticism is littered with examples where people said the same thing: 
            see it couldn't have been because we haven't dug up anything, yet 
            later the evidence is unearthed. 
            
              
          In 
            respect of Moses and the Exodus there are signs of the account being 
            valid, at least in geographical terms. Professor W.F.Albright, a distinguished 
            expert, said, 
          
            “According 
              to our present knowledge of the topography of the eastern delta 
              the account of the start of the Exodus, which is given in Ex 12:37 
              & 13:20 is topographically absolutely correct.” 
              
          
               
            
          Although 
            atheist critics would not accept this, scholars of the Bible point 
            out that Moses is attested to as an historical figure by Jesus the 
            Son of God, as well as by a variety of other Biblical writers. Archaeology 
            may not have revealed him yet, so watch this space. Just one warning: 
            names were changed or given at the drop of a hat in Biblical times 
            and therefore don't necessarily expect the name Moses to appear if 
            it is in Egyptians records. 
              
              
          P.104-106 
            The Pentateuch's failings – Moses as an author: 
            There is a rather silly argument here that argues where most of us 
            would not be arguing. The argument is that Moses was not the author 
            of the Pentateuch because in Genesis he wasn't mentioned (no, it covers 
            history before him!), he's dead at the end of Deuteronomy (completed 
            by another scribe, yes later!) and he is often named as a person, 
            in the third person. If this man was genuinely the meekest man on 
            the earth (as he's described), he doesn't want to draw attention to 
            himself and actually true humility isn't ashamed to attribute that 
            description to himself because he knows it's all the work of God. 
            
           
               
          Again 
            we find the same somewhat negative writing as he points out that Moses 
            was healthy right up to the end, and then just died. Yes? What's the 
            problem? That very often happens with elderly people, and in this 
            case, the Lord said He would take him home. For detailed reading of 
            this subject we suggest the book we mentioned at the beginning: The 
            Inspiration of the Pentateuch  by M.W.J.Phelan, and there are 
            no doubt a number of other similar books as this is a well researched 
            area where the author obviously has not been. 
               
              
          P.106,107 
            The death penalty & genocide. 
            For answers to this section may we refer you to the appraisal of The 
            God Delusion we have referred to a number of times already, particularly 
            chapter 7. CLICK 
            HERE. 
             
              
          P.107 
            Concluding Misunderstandings: In 
            the closing lines, the author clearly has a problem with the miraculous. 
            Please refer again to P.31 on our Apologetics pages to “The Revelation 
            of God”. (CLICK 
            HERE) If God 
            exists, and the Bible is the main testimony to that truth, then if 
            He is the Supreme Being it should be no surprise that He can intervene 
            in His world. The fact that throughout the Old Testament He focuses 
            on the one nation, Israel , is not to avoid the truth that through 
            them He also revealed Himself to many others, as the Bible actually 
            does testify. Silly closing comments! 
          For 
            those who would like to take time studying the claims of the Old Testament 
            about God's love and examining His actions in the light of those claims, 
            may we recommend you go to "God's Love in the Old Testament" 
            which is also found on this site, by CLICKING 
            HERE